Synopsis
Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation teaches you conversational Persian in a fun and casual manner in weekly lessons of about 15-20 minutes each. Check out our website chaiandconversation.com for more information.
Episodes
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Interview | Growing Up Irooni- Arian Moayed on the true purpose of art, and Good Thoughts, Good Words, and Good Deeds
20/07/2022 Duration: 38minI’m so excited to share with you all my conversation with Emmy award nominated actor Arian Moayed- he really needs no introduction, but you probably have seen him as Stewy on Succession, Kian on love life, lawyer Todd on Inventing Anna, or in the new Ms. Marvel series- really, he’s been everywhere it seems the past couple of years. But, as you’ll hear in the interview, his current success is the result of a couple decades of passionate work- I came away from this conversation with an incredible amount of inspiration and excitement for the future- both for the future of theater as a force of positive change, and for the future of the Iranian diaspora in general. Also, I learned that Arian and I share the same mantra as the basis for our work- he for his project Waterwell theater, and me for Chai and Conversation- we get into that in detail in the conversation. Super excited for you all to hear this episode, enjoy! Related Links: Waterwell theater webpage Waterwell theater instagram Arian Moayed instagram
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Interview | Growing Up Irooni - Back Home Beer on rediscovering the tradition of Iranian beer
13/07/2022 Duration: 30minI’m so excited about sharing today’s interview with Zahra Tabatabai, the woman behind the Persian inspired beer brand Back Home Beer. You might have seen her instagram or Twitter profile by now- she boasts three different flavors of beer, named Sumac Gose, Persian Blue Lager, and New Day IPA. Although it was released less than a year ago in October 2021, her beers have had quite an impact and presence in the Iranian community- but despite the success of the social media platforms of Back Home Beer, Zahra is pretty private, so she doesn’t show up herself very often on her feeds. I was so curious to get to know more about her, and was so delighted by her charming personality. I’m sure you’ll enjoy getting to know her as much as I did- let’s listen to the interviewA quick note from Leyla here- we talk a lot in this episode about the poetry that Zahra has chosen for the Back Home Beer beer cans- that’s a big part of the design of the cans and the overall message she’s trying to convey with the beers. Poetry is su
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Interview | Growing Up Irooni- Big Love Fierce Juju on openly discussing uncomfortable topics as an OBGYN
08/06/2022 Duration: 38minDr. Shieva Ghofrany is an OBGYN better known as Big Love Fierce Juju on instagram, where she posts daily videos about topics like pregnancy, female hormones, stds, really all that good stuff that doesn’t often gets talked about openly. She’s recently the co creator of Tribe Called V, an online program made to ‘increase our knowledge to decrease our anxiety’ about pregnancy and childbirth. Shieva’s parents moved to the United States before the revolution and both worked as doctors in Massachusetts. Despite this, her path to becoming a doctor wasn’t necessarily a straightforward one- compared to her sister, she describes herself as the ‘wayward daughter’ who took a while to figure out her path, and her work now really marries her interests in engagement, community, creativity AND the practice of medicine. It’s a fascinating path- listen to her describe her journey in her own words. Related Links: Big Love Fierce Juju Instagram Tribe Called V online pregnancy program
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Interview | Growing Up Irooni- Payam Banifaz and his journey to not becoming a lawyer
01/06/2022 Duration: 37minIf you've been anywhere near Instagram in the last couple years, you will have come across Payam (also known as Peter) Banifaz's amazing videos depicting growing up in an Iranian American household with a very Iranian father. The father familiar is extremely relatable to a lot of us who grew up in immigrant households- he talks about where the idea came from and how it's developed over the pandemic period. Also, he talks about his journey from studying to potentially become a lawyer, to breaking it to his family that he was going into acting instead- spoiler alert: the conversation was not easy. Related Links:Payam Banifaz on instagram
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Interview | Growing Up Irooni- Melody Moezzi on The Rumi Prescription
25/05/2022 Duration: 49minMelody Moezzi is most recently author of the book The Rumi Prescription, in which she talks about how the poetry of Rumi became a lifeline for her, helping her to gain wisdom and insight in the face of a creative and spiritual roadblock with the help of her father, a lifelong fan of Rumi’s poetry. We covered so much in our Growing Up Irooni interview, from the controversy of Coleman Barks and why Melody is actually a big fan of his work, to learning Persian poetry in its original language, to becoming an artist in a culture that isn’t always the most hospitable to being an artist as a profession, to discussing mental health in a culture that isn’t always the most hospital to talking about mental health, and so much more. Links: The Rumi Prescription book at Book Shop Melody Moezzi Instagram Melody Moezzi Twitter
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Interview | Raising Neem-Roonis- An Interview with Reza Aslan
18/05/2022 Duration: 30min(Originally published May 12th 2020) In this Raising Neem-Roonis edition of Chai and Conversation, we talk to author, commentator, producer, professor, and many other hat-wearer Iranian-American Reza Aslan about passing on the Persian culture and language to the next generation. Reza has four neem-Roonis of his own, and talks about the challenges of teaching them the Persian language, but also why it is absolutely imperative to do so.
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Interview | Growing Up Irooni- Caspian Chef discusses returning to his Iranian roots after decades of assimilation
11/05/2022 Duration: 58minIn this Growing Up Irooni we talk to Omid Roustaei, better known as the Caspian Chef. In this conversation, we discuss the process of coming to the United States on his own and figuring out his own path for assimilating into American culture as a means of survival. Omid has has a very rich and varied path, first studying biotech engineering, and then becoming a personal chef and yoga teacher, to pursuing a career in psychotherapy, to returning to cooking and his Iranian roots only in the past few years.This was one of the most fascinating conversations I've had- and we really go into some territory that I think will resonate with so many of us- life is certainly not linear, and we can see that in Omid's story. We talk about career and pursuing your dreams- he first went down the ‘traditional Iranian path' of becoming a biotech engineer and worked in that field for a while, before pivoting to the perhaps more American notion of pursuing his passion- cooking and psychotherapy. We also talked about the process o
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Poetry | Saadi's bani ādam Part 3
31/01/2022 Duration: 11minIn this final part of the discussion of Bani Adam by Saadi, we go over the last two lines of the poem, and review the entire poem in its entirety as well.
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Poetry | Saadi's bani ādam Part 2
23/01/2022 Duration: 18minIn this lesson, we'll go over the first part of the poem bani ādam and learn the individual words and phrases of this section of the poem.
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Poetry | Saadi's bani ādam Intro
09/12/2021 Duration: 29minIn this poetry episode, we go over one of the most famous poems of the Persian language- bani ādam by the poet saadi. We will learn about Saadi and what made him such a unique voice. And then we'll go over this poem specifically. We're joined in this episode by Muhammad Ali of Persian Poetics.
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Poetry | Rumi's beshnō een nay Part 4
05/07/2021 Duration: 16minIn this lesson, we're going to go over the final part of the poem beshnō een nay by Rumi. We will go over the Persian words and phrases learned in this part of the poem.
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Poetry | Rumi's beshnō een nay Part 3
28/06/2021 Duration: 19minIn this third part of our discussion of Rumi's beshnō een nay, we go over the middle part of the poem, and learn the words and phrases associated with this part of the poem.
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Poetry | Rumi's beshnō een nay Part 2
21/06/2021 Duration: 20minIn this lesson, we're going to go over the first four lines of the poem beshnō een nay, (also known as beshnō az nay- we explain this in the lesson) and learn the vocabulary and phrases associated with the poem. We also learn other vocabulary words related to the ones learned in this part of the poem. Translation by Persian Poetics.
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Poetry | Rumi's beshnō een nay Intro
09/06/2021 Duration: 47minIn this lesson, we go over one of Rumi's most famous poems, beshnō een nay, which means ‘listen to the reed flute,' with our friend Muhammad Ali of Persian Poetics. We go over the essence and meaning behind the poem, and analyze it line by line using Muhammad Ali's English translation. Beshnō een nay is the first poem in Rumi's Masnavi, and is a common poem for Iranians to have memorized. The major theme of the poem is that of separation, either from a specific place or from the divine, and the return to the ‘self,' whatever that may be.
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Interview | Growing Up Irooni- House of Pod's Kaveh Hoda on being Iranian-American in Medicine
07/04/2021 Duration: 25minKaveh Hoda is a physician, musician and host of the medical podcast House of Pod in San Francisco. His expertise is in gastroenterology, hepatology and, according to him, making fun of medical grifters. He cohosts the humor adjacent medical podcast, the House of Pod, which is how I first learned of him. Along with his cohost Lizzie, he explores topics related to the medicine, which, as we touch on in the interview, is really a microcosm for society at large. Medicine is something that affects all of us in one way or another, and we’ve especially seen how important the medical field is now during this pandemic. So, I’ve really been enjoying listening to his podcast, learning more about a field I don’t have any personal connections to.
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Interview | Growing Up Irooni- Persian Poetics, Growing Up in Detroit and Discovering the Love of Persian Poetry
24/03/2021 Duration: 34minMy name is Leyla Shams, host of the Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation podcast. Today’s interview is with Mohammad Ali, better known as Persian poetics on both Instagram and twitter. He went viral just a few months ago on a twitter thread where he talked about the bestselling poetry book in the English language, a translation of Rumi’s poems by Coleman Barks. In the thread, he went through a details look at Coleman Bark’s translations, and revealed that Barks doesn’t even know the Persian language- so how is he translating Rumi? Since the thread went viral, Mohammad Ali has picked up the pace of his own more accurate translations of Rumi and other Persian poetry. He has a lot of other wonderful poetry content that we’ll talk about in this interview. His own personal story is very interesting too, of how he was born in Detroit and grew up there as well, but became enamored by Iranian culture and eventually the language and of course, the poetry. Find Persian Poetics on Instagram and on Twitter.
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Speak Lesson 71 | Nowruz (Vocabulary Sprint)
14/03/2021 Duration: 17minIn this Persian (Farsi) lesson, we go over vocabulary associated with the most important Persian holiday, Nowruz. We'll learn about the haft seen table, and the items associated with the haft seen table. In addition, we'll learn a few different ways to wish people a happy Nowruz holiday, including 'aidé shomā mobārak' and 'nowruz mobārak'. Also, check out our Complete Guide to Living Your Best Nowruz for day to day instructions on how to have the best Nowruz ever!
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Poetry | Ahmad Shamlou's raz Part 3
08/03/2021 Duration: 13minIn this lesson, we continue our study of Ahmad Shamlou's poem, Rāz. We learn the words and phrases in the second half of the poem.
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Poetry | Ahmad Shamlou's raz Part 2
24/02/2021 Duration: 15minIn this lesson, we go over the first half of Ahmad Shamlou's poem, Rāz.
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Poetry | Ahmad Shamlou's raz Intro
10/02/2021 Duration: 34minIn this lesson, we introduce the iconic Iranian poet Ahmad Shamlou, and talk about his poem ‘Raz’ or راز, meaning ‘the secret’. Shamlou was born in 1925 in Rasht, and he died in 2000, after a few years of health problems. He went through a few revolutions, he was put in jail and he was a journalist for a while. He wrote about politics and was part of the Toudeh party. And so he did live through a lot of turmoil in Islamic Republic, and he stayed in Iran- he didn't leave, like so many others. For a few years after the Islamic revolution happened, he did go silent. But he emerged after that, and did tours of Europe and he did tours of the US. He was nominated for a Nobel Prize in 1984. He remains one of the most famous contemporary poets from Iran to this day.